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From
06/02/2019 15:42:16
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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04/02/2019 23:17:35
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Forum:
Politics
Category:
Economics
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01665625
Message ID:
01665976
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>>My kids' generation couldn't possibly fund my generation's retirement. They probably can't fund their own.
>>That generation of working people and later ones has seen a steady erosion of its share of GDP.

Agreed. And also I see it that the Middle Class has most of its wealth in the family home on which they already pay a value tax called property tax. So why shouldn't those fortunate to have wealth in a lot more than the family home, also pay a property tax on their wealth?

Certainly I get it. Thank you.

Whether the Democrats are brave enough to impose it on their wealthy voter base, is another matter.

As an example of what to expect: wealthy coasters were content with huge state taxes before Trump because they simply deducted it from their federal tax so were unaffected. Trump identified this as a drain on federal coffers, so he capped the amount that could be deducted at $10K. What did the wealthy coasters do- did they celebrate the virtue of now paying for themselves the high state taxes they had supported? No, we both know what they did: they jiggled their affairs and expatriated wealth to avoid the high state taxes, leaving CA with a huge deficit. Woe betide any Democrat who proposes higher federal taxes that can't be similarly wriggled and jiggled out of.

>>Once you take away the assumption of consistent income growth in all income levels, nothing works and you start getting people saying things like you just did.

Sorry if not seeing the emperor's clothes is so problematic. ;-) It is what it is, and the virtue of a proposed response does not dictate its success.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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