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Talking Rotten
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From
12/02/2019 14:04:57
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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Forum:
Politics
Category:
Economics
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01665625
Message ID:
01666339
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>>...except that none of the notes were classified and Trump is indeed a pathological liar (deny facts here). Just because Trump repeats it over and over doesn't make it true -- as matter of fact it means odd's are that it is a lie.

It doesn't become true just because you say it with such certainty.

As an example, notes of a meeting between the FBI Director and POTUS: are those government property or personal property? By definition, who determines whether they're classified?

For the avoidance of doubt: POTUS is the ultimate classification/declassification authority.

Even ignoring that: the problem with your version, is that if the notes are personal property or otherwise are legal to leak, why doesn't that mean other FBI people also can leak notes of their interviews and meetings in the course of work; and that leaking of private business interactions by disgruntled former employees is now virtuous. Clearly this is absurd and would end cooperation with the FBI.

And that's not even considering the optics when the FBI commits that it's working hard to reduce all its leaks... and then the prevailing director himself is caught leaking.

So some respond expressing concern at the legality and ethics, while others chant Hurrah Saint Comey because he landed a blow on BOM and that's always good.

>>How many Russians have been indicted so far? Muller investigation is not over along with other ones.

How many indictments for russian collusion with the Trump campaign? You may get away with smudging it all into a convenient narrative in the bubble, but this is not the bubble.

>>Muller is not done -- and a random collage girl's diary is unrelated to this (I can't believe I have to say that).

"Mueller is not done" != "Trump is guilty."

If an alchemist has tried to turn wood into gold for 2 years and so far there's a few burnt fingers but no gold... do you declare that the burnt fingers are a sort of gold, or insist that "the alchemist is not finished" proves there will be mountains of gold any day now?

As for that girl: she's a canary for where this hateful divisive ideology is leading you. The whole basis of civil western society is being undermined by this celebration/canonization of appalling behavior. How Putin must laugh to see all the useful idiots glorifying in demeaning what used to be the greatest nation on earth.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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