>>So at least for family chats, I'm also looking for a replacement. Needs to
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>>- be p2p
>>- be independent of any of the monsters (google, m$, amazon, fb, tw, instagram and such)
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>Birds eye on p2p gives better chances of of avoiding censorship via p2p, but at the cost of securing all p2p end devices.
>Of course somewhat mitigated by tendency of end devices synchronizing with central server in C/S setups ;-)
>From the chances of avoiding snoops a C/S setup is better as only one machine needs to be hardened - but in case of big seller offers a ripe target by of few servers hosting oodles of comm threads.
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>What are your specific motivation angles ?

Independence from big monsters, their clouds and data harvesting. Usage of simple true and tried p2p stuff. No ads. No disappearing features at the whim of whichever fashion suddenly gets the idea that your screen is too big. Something that will work for years without much change. Pretty much what skype was about to be before it was devoured. I don't mind paying a few dozen € or some annual fee, as long as it's for some small independent shop which doesn't mean to sell itself to a corporation, doesn't want to grow into a behemoth, doesn't want to grow endlessly. Which has a product which does what I need.