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From
20/02/2019 18:46:30
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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Forum:
Politics
Category:
Economics
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01665625
Message ID:
01666591
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64
>>Who's 'hawks' wanted to start a war with North Korea though? (still censored).
>> I do not recall anyone in the past administration wanting to start a war with a North Korea nuclear power.

Here's the comment:

>To say nothing of North Korea where at the time of the election the hawks were beating the war drums predicting nuclear attacks and disaster to justify embroiling the US in another never-ending conflict. But then Trump won and they've had to go quiet too.

What I'm referring to is NK's nuclear tests and claims of miniaturized nukes for ICBM delivery in the leadup to elections. When the US and SK held joint military games in 2016, NK staged another nuclear test and threatened nuclear response. Specific threats of nuclear Armageddon were declared should the Great Satan foolishly challenge NK's military might. US, SK, Japan and even the UN contemplated nuked Japanese or maybe even coastal US cities. Sanctions were applied, leading to more NK outbursts. Hawks went on the US MSM expressing concerns at this nuclear maverick, musing on the legality of striking first. Even Russia's hawks warned NK of consequences, including direct military intervention.

Trump initially bought into the rhetoric referring to Little Rocket Man and making dramatic threats of his own, before unprecedented meetings took place, agreements to deescalate were made, prisoner remains were released.

Perhaps the reason you don't recall all this prolific NK and anti-NK hawk drum beating is because of all the Orange Man Bad. But there's even talk of peace and an economic renaissance for NK.

Will Trump succeed? Time will tell. But can you not rise above wishing failure on him and resumption of nuclear threat, rather than hoping his eccentric style may let him succeed when the previous 3 presidents and their diplomacy and "strategic patience" allowed NK to become a nuclear power? His success is not a loss for you, unless you are determined to make it so.

>>Trump from White House Rose Garden last Friday: "....“I believe he would have gone to war with North Korea, I think he was ready to go to war. In fact, he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea.”
>>It's just another one of Trump's 8,000+ lies. Unlike Trump (who is a total idiot), Obama comprehends the fact that North Korea would kill 100,000's people in Seoul in a matter of hours if not minutes with just the non-nuclear weapons they have.

LOL. I wasn't there to say whether it's a lie and nor am I his evil twin... though now I understand why you assumed I referred to Obama. Your problem is that after months accusing him of gazillions of lies, calling this one a lie is a big ho hum. Yes yes yes, we heard you the first time and the 5 zillionth time that everything he says is a lie. Now shoosh, I can't hear the TV.

Frankly, I don't believe Obama can complain. He made history by campaigning in his 8th year in office against a candidate, so he can't complain to receive some back- especially when Fake News/ Fact Checkers gloss over gaffes like his magic wand, hysterically Fact Checking Trump instead for not quoting Obama exactly!
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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