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From
27/02/2019 18:57:19
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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Forum:
Politics
Category:
Economics
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01665625
Message ID:
01666806
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46
>>Go to any Trump rally -- it's more like a KKK rally.

The KKK was never that popular. and the only people in masks or initiating conflict, are provocateurs hoping to disrupt and suppress.

>> I'm sure you recall protesters being attacked and beat up -- even Trump saying he'd pay their legal bills and actually encouraging such behavior. I don't condone the behavior of people attacking anyone. ...but stop and think about it a minute -- how did all this get started in the first place? It is Trump's racist and hateful actions and words that started all of this. Yes that is NOT an excuse for anyone attacking anyone -- but you have to go back to the source of how it started.

Are you referring to this?

There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience. So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell— I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise. It won’t be so much ’cause the courts agree with us too.

If so- explain why you insist Trump is starting this? He's not saying to beat up innocent protestors as you infer... he's saying that if a provocateur tries to assault Trump to disrupt the event, the audience should react in kind to protect Trump. He's not saying to start trouble, but to react to it. This is a good illustration of how Fake News turns victims into instigators and vice versa. Orwell would love it.

>>In today's times the political violence we see comes mostly from the far right....

Political violence? If you mean violent suppression of free speech- then show me an analogue of the MAGA hat attacks by these far righters you are so concerned about.

Perhaps you mean the awful far-righters that attacked Smollett?

>>The false equivalency risks trivializing evil. EQUIVALENCY is the key word here. Understand the difference between equivalency and parallels - you seem to be ignoring this.

I'm not going to buy into sophistry to justify falsity. It's easy to find examples of political violence against POTUS and his supporters. Show me the reverse- show me legitimate free speech shut down violently by these far-righters you insist are the ones doing most of it. No? Then please, do me the courtesy of not expecting me to treat an avalanche of jargon as fact.

>>"Parallels lie in authoritarianism, racism, ethnic myths and dehumanizing language, not the Final Solution" - tagline from an article I linked to below.

Meaningless piffle IMHO. Just the facts, please.

>>This is an interesting read
>>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/07/16/its-not-wrong-to-compare-trumps-america-to-the-holocaust-heres-why/

It's blatant propaganda, Victor. Start with this:

>>Moreover, his support or, at best, toleration of modern Nazi groups in the United States, epitomized by his relativist “blame on both sides” comment after the demonstrations in my hometown of Charlottesville last August...

This is a deliberate misrepresentation of what he said, which was graphically repeated by CNN as recently as this week. I dare you to go find Trump's full uncherry-picked statements on those riots. To me, this is exactly the same as the accusations that he called all mexicans racists or is anti-immigrant or told rally-goers to beat up innocent protestors, which is used to call him racist or hateful. They tried to call him Antisemitic as well, but that collapsed when almost everybody considered that his daughter converted to Judaism and is one of his closest confidantes.

On and on go the lies and propaganda- hilariously this time accusing Trump of propaganda.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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