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Politics
Category:
Economics
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01665625
Message ID:
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>>>>>I disagree -- condoning or denying racist behavior is a racist action. It's not different that telling a racist joke then claiming you didn't say something racist because you didn't write the joke, you just told it. Furthermore there was no eagerness on my part as I gave him probably a dozen opportunities to see that before I called him out on it.
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>>>Your namecalling is wasted on me regardless, but I don't think the tactic is much use at all any more. How else would you explain Trump's 52% bipartisan popularity last week? Last week he was more popular than Obama at the same point in office despite the non-stop hatred from Fake News and the Crying Wolf brigade. Perhaps the nastiness directed at him is getting too much to stomach for the reasonable majority and creating sympathy.
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>>>One thing I can see in the first suit brought by the Covington victims of the whole hateful movement, refers to easily-demonstrated anti-Trump bias of WAPO. In their shoes I'd be as worried about that as about the $250M suit because it that's accepted by the court, the Fake News stain will never be erased.
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>>Trump's approval rating has nothing to do with you condoning or denying racist behavior (which is a racist action). If you have a problem with being called out on it -- then don't do it to begin with.
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>Victor, since there have been, oh, about a million posts between you and JR....can you point me to a specific message ID (or a small handful) where JR openly condoned or denied a specific racist action.
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>You keep bringing this up. I don't read every single exchange, but I don't ever recall seeing JR excuse racism. And by the way, I don't consider Trump's "sh**-hole country" statement a racist action. It wasn't very clever, but I don't think it was racist.

>I also don't think Trump bringing up Obama's birth certificate was inherently racist, as there is a valid argument (one that continues to get missed) that Obama tried years to get people to believe he *was* born in another country and therefore a foreign-exchange student...and that his reluctance to prove that he *was* born in the U.S. would cast doubt on what he led people to believe decades ago. ( I do think that it was idiotic for Trump to continue to raise it as an issue after 2011, when Obama finally proved where he was born).

I disagree with your assessment. Perhaps you're unaware that birth certificates have always been a weapon for white supremacists. The fact that he still brings it up is clearly an attempt to appeal to his base of racists followers. (I'm not saying that his 'base' is all racists).

>I also am not sure "send him back to Kenya" is a racist remark - I think it was dumb, stupid, insensitive, and inappropriate, but I don't consider that a racist action.

Ahhh...but it is. Did he say 'send him back to Chicago'? No. Now does that mean he himself is a racist? One comment like that one is not enough to tell -- but is there a pattern? Perhaps.

>So - can you point me to a specific message ID (or a small handful) where JR openly condoned or denied a specific racist action.

Give me a couple days to back though all the posts and I'll P.M. you and we can discuss it that way without interference -- is that ok with you??
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