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25/08/2019 16:08:11
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
 
 
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Politics
Catégorie:
Élections
Titre:
Divers
Thread ID:
01670228
Message ID:
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>>I can't quote exactly, but most of what he said was about him, not the victims.
>>That was disgusting.
>>His obnoxiousness toward other pols and the press might have been excusable, but his behavior in this instance showed that he's just a crappy person, and I don't want him representing me.

My concern is the "good people on both sides" hoax that confirms you can fool a lot of the people a lot of the time. Can't quote exactly? That's a problem IMHO.

Here's what he said, which includes immediate use of powers granted to him such as instructing the FBI to root out and disrupt hatred, including by white supremacists. The part about whote supremacists is unfortunately cut out at the beginning which unfortunate coincidence allows the politicians who immediately blamed Trump for the shootings, including Warren whose own supporter committed one of the atrocities, to insist Trump never repudiates and in fact enables and encourages white supremacists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY8QHbb1-4Y

Try as I might- I can't see what so disturbs you about this. The only reference to himself is as head of the Executive making immediate use of powers granted him, and beseeching Congress to break the deadlock and deliver legislation. As I keep saying, we are besieged by liars and if you don't go back to source and/or can't quote actual words, what are you relying on?

>>It's been so long since we've seen real leadership that we forget what leaders do.
>>They find ways to get difficult things done.

In fairness, Trumo has already used many of the powers available to him but is usually opposed by the Democrat House, activist judiciary and establishment media. If you want to know how NZ was able to implement gun control so quickly after the recent atrocity here, the key words would be a) bipartisanship, b) media balance, c) absence of activist judiciary, and d) politicians reflecting public popularity of the PM. Of course many argue that NZ's haste was antidemocratic and already is unraveling, but that's another issue. My own view is that you don't need AR-15-style weapons in urban life and handguns have been mostly illegal in NZ for many decades, so we don't face the urban handgun scourge you do.

>>Maybe this country has slid to a point where people like him speak for a majority.
>>If so, I'll be happy to be a minority.

Go back and see what he actually said about fine people. Go back and see what he actually said about immigrants. Go back and see if you can find his unclipped statement after the 2 recent atrocities, including absolute repudiation of hate crimes specifically including neonazi and white supremacist. Orwell described sheep bleating "4 legs good, 2 legs bad" to drown out opposition to Napoleon and the pigs; lets not be sheep.

tY8QHbb1-4Y
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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