>>>>>>>>Nope. That's not clarity of vision.
>>>>>>>>It's insight.
>>>>>>>>Don't agree?
>>>>>>>>That's OK.
>>>>>>>>You have your insights, I have mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>People have "insights" about all sorts of things. Climate change. "Some neonazis are good people". Russia, Russia, Russia. Pee pee. He's Kenyan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Connection to the real world?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Optional IME.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I prefer to play scientist. It means questioning things and not just chanting "four legs good" or cleaving to easy/popular answers, but I can't help it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dehumanizing?
>>>>>>>>Didn't mean it that way and if that's the inference people will take, I shouldn't have said it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Calling somebody "trash" isn't meant to be dehumanizing? i guess that's another "insight" whose purity exempts it from examination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>He's lowered the standing of the POTUS to a new depth and as I said when I started this thread, I regret my vote for him. He's not the kind of person I want representing me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's something to consider: how might Trump have behaved had the McCarthyites, purchasers of pee-pee dossiers, leakers, haters, deep staters and MSM not formed an antisocial cabal to attack him, creating Stalinist lists of every conceivable interpretation of fault to dehumanize and abuse? As a wag once observed, if Trump walked on water they'd screech that it's because he can't swim and CNN would dedicate hours to Nadler, Avenatti and Scaramucci insisting it's clearly a high crime involving Putin so there needs to be another round of investigation. Put yourself on the receiving end of that. When McCarthy tried to do it to Fred Fisher, a brave man stood up and cried that the Emperor had no clothes but these days anybody foolish enough to do that would be pilloried and added to the purge list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>We know the answer to that.
>>>>>He started the birther nonsense long before he was a candidate and the FBI came after him.
>>>>>Roy Cohn (McCarthy's lawyer) was his lawyer long before Trump was even a candidate.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cohn precept #3- any publicity is better than no publicity.
>>>>>
>>>>>We've seen so much disgusting behavior from Trump that we tend to forget just how cynically destructive that birther nonsense was.
>>>>>It was a deliberate, calculated lie aimed at drawing attention to himself.
>>>>>I know people who still think that Obama isn't a US citizen.
>>>>>Have people done worse things?
>>>>>Of course, but I don't want someone like him representing me.
>>>>
>>>>Bill, why do you even bother.
>>>
>>>Why?
>>>
>>>I was thrilled this past summer when Shane Lowry, a catholic from the Republic of Ireland won the British Open played at Royal Portrush - a gorgeous and demanding golf course - in Northern Ireland.
>>>Shane said that he couldn't wait to have a pint or two with this best friend, Rory McIlory, a protestant from Northern Ireland.
>>>Later, Grahame McDowell, another North Ireland protestant golfer, said that it was a great day for the island of Ireland. That was the first time I heard an Irishman - south or north - talk about the island of Ireland.
>>>
>>>50 years ago, Rory and Shane might have been shooting at each other.
>>>Now they're hoisting pints and talking about the island of Ireland.
>>>I wish that my parents and grandparents could have seen this. it's amazing.
>>>
>>>That's what happen when people who disagree talk and listen to each other.
>>
>>I wonder what will happen after the brexit....
>
>Good question.
>The way things look now, it's just a matter of time till Ireland unites.

Would be logical...but then again what's logical about that whole sordid affair ? ;)