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04/03/2020 13:23:57
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
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>>>I've worked in healthcare for over 25 years and actually stay current on these types of things, so I actually do know what I'm talking about.
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>So why keep claiming they're trying to rip healthcare away from 11 millions people when that's absurdly and obviously untrue outside the fake news bubble? You should know better.
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>>>Just keep saying it's all fake news and that Trump never lies if that's what works for you :)
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>When did I ever say that? I will say that replacement of reasoned disagreement by anti-intellectual ad hominem chanting, is a big threat to democracy.

You've used the term "fake news" in every single post and you spend a great deal of your time defending Trump and blaming the media. Now you're trying to say the GOP doesn't want to take away healthcare from people when they've attempted to do so over 70 times.

...so I will break it all down for you and give you a couple days worth of reading material - this should get you started (but of course will not compensate for 25+ years of experience)

If ObamaCare is struck down, the numbers or worse than 11 million, it's more like 21 million people will loose their coverage:
21 Million -> will loose heath coverage
12 Million -> adults will loose medicade coverage
133 Million -> number of people with pre-exiting conditions that will get screwed
171 Million -> Americans who no longer face caps on expensive treatments will get screwed
60 Million -> Medicare beneficiaries would face changes to medical care and possibly higher premiums.
2 Million -> Young adults with coverage through their parents’ plans will get screwed

EVIDENCE to support all of the above here:

https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/health-insurance-exchanges-2019-open-enrollment-report
https://www.macpac.gov/publication/medicaid-benefit-spending-per-full-year-equivalent-enrollee-for-newly-eligible-adult-and-all-enrollees-by-state/
https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/100000/repeal_of_the_aca_by_state_0.pdf
https://www.cbo.gov/system/files?file=2018-06/53826-healthinsurancecoverage.pdf
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/the-effects-of-medicaid-expansion-under-the-aca-updated-findings-from-a-literature-review-august-2019/
https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/255396/Pre-ExistingConditions.pdf
https://www.kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/pre-existing-conditions-and-medical-underwriting-in-the-individual-insurance-market-prior-to-the-aca/
https://www.kff.org/private-insurance/issue-brief/data-note-changes-in-enrollment-in-the-individual-health-insurance-market-through-early-2019/
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/usc-brookings-schaeffer-on-health-policy/2017/01/17/health-insurance-as-assurance-the-importance-of-keeping-the-acas-limits-on-enrollee-health-costs/
https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/what-are-the-implications-of-repealing-the-affordable-care-act-for-medicare-spending-and-beneficiaries/
https://www.kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/kff-health-tracking-poll-november-2018-priorities-congress-future-aca-medicaid-expansion/
https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pdf/187551/ACA2010-2016.pdf
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/sites/default/files/documents/___media_files_publications_issue_brief_2017_may_dranove_aca_medicaid_expansion_hospital_uncomp_care_ib.pdf

..and since you seem to think the GOP is not trying to do this, here is a good starting point on 60 or so of the times they've tried ...although the real number is over 70 (it's a short list)...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_repeal_the_Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

I don't expect to hear back from you until you've read all of the above so it won't be a "anti-intellectual ad hominem conversation"
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