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Update on the Texas City hydroxychloroquine
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07/05/2020 16:07:16
Walter Meester
HoogkarspelNetherlands
 
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>>>>Not sure what you are trying to imply here.
>>>I am trying to imply that all the things you mention are possible reasons for the difference, but the major difference in treatments could also be a major difference in outcomes. I personally know 4 people that have tested positive - 2 in Florida and 2 in Georgia (one 80 years old). In both cases ( two father and son pairs) their doctors immediately put them on hydroxychloroquine,
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>>That is anecdotical evidence. My brothers neighbours both in their 80-ties also catched COVID19 and survived without such medication. Not all people infected with COVID19 die without medication and not all people survive with any medication. All depends on the effectiveness of the medication, which at this stage is unknown.
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>>People in desperation will grab anything to survive, but there currently is no scientific evidence for the effectiveness hydroxychloroquine or remdesvir. It is likely Trumps pressure to find a cure and the media attention play a role in this as well.
>>https://publicintegrity.org/health/coronavirus-and-inequality/trumps-drug-cure-for-covid-19-feels-like-deja-vu/
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>>This article states that 52 people in a veteran home did die despite taking the drug.
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>"That's an observational study. It's not a clinical study. It was done on a small number of veterans - sadly, those of whom were in the last stages of life, and the drug was given to them. And I have to also say that we know the drug has been working on middle-age and younger veterans,” VA Secretary Robert Wilkie told MSNBC last week.

Is he a scientist that has results from peer review studies? If not it is anecdotical evidence. Up here about 75% of deaths are above the age of 70. So middles aged and younger veterans are less likely to die in the first place.

>>It is dangerous to just to jump to premature conclusions as the following article outlines: https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-reminder-risk-serious-side-effects-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine

>If the side effects are so bad why do you think that doctors are still prescribing ( as they have for years) hydroxychloroquine to millions who have lupus and other diseases?

Any complication is better than death. But if the drug is not effective in the 1st place, you should stay far away from it.

>>https://econouinemictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/covid-19-fda-warns-against-side-effects-of-hydroxychloroquine/articleshow/75369083.cms

I've been working for about 25 years in healthcare and have been involved in WHO studies and data analysis for private clinics. I've provided data analysis for people getting their PHD and publishing research papers. I know how difficult it is to draw the right conclusions from looking at data, but if you think you know better by listening what some politicians have to say. Go ahead.
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