>>>Clinton - Degenerate
>>>Bush - Dimwit
>>>Obama - Do Nothing
>>>Trump - Disaster
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>>>My problem is that I voted for three of these people and actually felt good voting for two of them.
>>>Here's my question?
>>>Are we getting what we deserve?
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>>The main problem is in your political system. It essentially is a 2 party system. There is nothing to choose from.
>>And if you choose libertian, your voices are lost anyways. The winner takes all.
>>If you're republican you hate democrats and visa versa.
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>>Best would be to fix the political system, but we all know that is not going to happen.
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>Over here (speaking somewhat on EU and associates) not everything is smelling rosy...
>We have parties hating all other groups (usually on the far ends) and countries wallowing for years in do nothing policies forced by having to cater to sensibilities of coalition partners, even up to remodeling speech patterns to follow the PC of "partners". Italy somewhat typical for coalition paralysis. Actually I cheer Trump whenever he is sticking his finger in the sore point of Germany falling far off (when measured in % of target) the 2% level of military spending NATO members agreed upon for themselves. Don't think of myself as a war monger for thinking that way...
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>Germany introduced electing city mayors directly, and IMO that change, moving more to US patterns, was a good change, as it opened up options for well known figures from independant leaning or not from one of the 2 parties getting most votes.
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>Also IMO EU vs. Supreme court showing the US on the better side, similar to ECB being more influenced by EU political wishes than stateside counterpart.
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>Also remember the GB parliament of more than 2 parties flailing around since Brexit vote of population, resulting in european blonde unable to perceive Corona threat (at least until he contacted it himself)

Agreed that not everything is rosy. But a 2 party system where you choose the party based upon which one you hate the most is not a healthy way.

>We have parties hating all other groups (usually on the far ends)
As does the US and the UK, except that is towards 100% of the total of political power.

>Italy somewhat typical for coalition paralysis
Agreed, but reducing the number of parties there is not going to help that either.

And while the UKs political system is a bit different in the end it boils down to the same 2 party system. The few members of parlement with another political colour have about no power at al.







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>my 0.022 €
>thomas