Thomas,

what is --The fwk itself-- ??

Koen

>>Hi everybody. I have several developed apps that are about 15 years old. I see that those apps' menus are very outdated, Is there a tool or some way to convert my apps' old fashioned menus into something more modern, say, Office's Ribbon menu?
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>I was for quite a stretch of time with the biz side of the company that bought the vfx (Visual Extend) fwk, which was the other side of the once quite large german vfp user group. One of the things Uwe and Rainer implemented last decade was a Ribbon menu and they were quite proud of it - As I dislike that style, never looked at the implementation or if it can be broken out / used separately.
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>The fwk itself IMO was one of the best and most used vfp fwks: rock solid, at least retrofitted with OOP strength (one of the things I did there: established a "user" classlib level at every inheritance step: you can add special tweaks and behavior to ANY level of code called without fear that on next update you need to work to get own stuff hooked in again). On that thought, last update was last year, they seem to be still working on it, but it suffers with other vfp fwks from a bit of "my way or the highway mentality" doing things not the way devs think is at best like swimming upriver.
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>They had DL of lots sample programs plus some screen casts so you can verify ribbon menu, also IIRC manual to check for yourself how they think and what they added - which was about everything they needed or created for any

single client in nearly 2 dozen years.
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>Gut guess is "too expensive ONLY for ribbon", but if you see other things to your liking like adding a few touches to cursoradapter classes and automatic behavior there or their very data driven approach to cbo/picklists, wrapping zip C lib or more goodies a thing reasonable. One thing IMO important to consider: it works WITH vfp (the mindset of "everything is data, even screens") and uses vfps strength whenever possible, not putting oodles of code running between your app and vfp, building on cursoradapter to make backend replaceable and add things without disturbing getting data fast, where vfp still shines.
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>most support questions come from german clients, but head devs could switch to english without problem
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>not even 0.02€ (Not connected with the outfit any more)
>thomas