>Agree. Vote Trump, at least you're not getting a career politician whose only concern is a turn at the trough. And there's the entertainment value. Going the other way is the end of America and the start of Amerika - more free stuff for all.

For a long time, the theme of Trump was, "at least he's not a politician". To a degree, I was saying that in 2016.
And yes, he is correct when he talks about the "swamp"

But 3 things have happened:

First, he has created his own "swamp" - more like a nest of vipers. I have no problem with intellectual street fighters who make an unapologetic push for what is supposed to make this country so great. But he has missed that mark so horribly.

Second, after seeing how he operates the last 3.5 years, I think he's been a politician all along....just a different kind of politician.

Third...and perhaps most importantly....he just refuses to own up to his mistakes.

In 2011, I saw Obama "moderate" and after a series of events, I honestly thought he was starting to come to grips with some of his mistakes and I saw a man who was actually willing to DO the right things. Not consistently, but enough that I had promise for him. But then 2012 came along and a combination of his laziness and the pure dishonestly of his inside group were enough to make me realize I was probably kidding myself.

Well, if Trump were to be honest with his base and say, "I've made mistakes and I want the opportunity to do better for this country...I've gone through four years of the learning curve and here's what I'm going to do differently"...and if I felt he meant it...I *might* hold my nose and vote for him. But we are way past that. I don't believe in being humble for the sake of being humble - but I do believe there are humbling situations that put people at a crossroads and force them to reevaluate. It's very difficulty - but it's what makes a great leader. And Trump isn't one.

Since Amy Klobuchar stepped away, leaving no one as a good VP choice, I'm likely voting third party.