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07/10/2020 15:12:52
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
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"Intellectualism" conjured up leptosomic authors or theater directors pictured in black and white on current photos - if you allow me to wallow in stereotypes ;-)
>>Often Science as in "experimental" is as foreign to those "culture workers" or political "scientists" as to far out believers of more than one religion.

Fair enough. Intended context was "anti-intellectual"ism rather than anti-"intellectualism" by which I meant that rational behaviors are replaced by intolerant superstition, or worse by people willfully hunting for misquotes to support a narrative justifying their own antisocial misbehaviour. E.g. you are like Hitler if you fail to follow popular narratives or science so it's virtuous to attack you. Or, attacking passers-by is virtuous if they are wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat which illogic is all the rage (literally) in the US.

>>"Western morality" by second word more linked to churches and sexual behaviour if talked about as "Westerner", ranging from bible belt ethics to Declarations of debasedness in cities like NY, SF when written about by politically adverse groups around Kremlin and some rice or oil fields closer to Mekka.

Western morality as jargon is independent from church, but it's undeniable that Western judicial and political constructs were built upon Judeo-Christian ethics- even to the point of making state separate from religion as a founding principle which enlightenment clearly is not shared by other popular belief models. The sort of question you'd reasonably expect from one of those self-proclaimed Western chauvinists in the US would be "which nations were founded according to your superior principles, and how did it turn out?"

>>In our own lifetime things like same sex orientation moved from hidden to bragged about - both wrong from my POV: history, numbers and animal behaviour suggest a bell curve of appetites, just accept the facts...

If you were to compile a list of nations oppressing homosexuality, at which position do you think the first Western nation would appear? Which was Churchill's point when he quipped that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. The modern insistence on comparing to perfection rather than real-life alternatives means it's never good enough and the outpouring of anguish absurdly empowers some of the most oppressive nations on earth to waggle the scolding finger at the West.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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