VB is being VERY stubborn here .. I CAN make an OLE contol which has a transparent background and store the mouse cursor image in it and it DOES have a handle .. but it still won't go to the top of the zorder ! This seems to be a classic case of "you can't get there from here !"

>>Unfortunately, the only control I can get to have a transparent background (ala a mouse cursor) is the Image control and it doesn't have a hWnd property (of course).
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>Uggh. Well, it probably still has one, but I'd hate to have to rely on the class name to get it.