Okay, will give it a whirl. Better than banging my head against my code trying to find the problem.

Thanks

>>Hi Mike,
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>>No I am not - do you think in a situation where the cursor is nuked of all records and then rebuilt with entirely new records it is needed? When I looked at the code in .RealRefresh(), it seemed to be just positioning the record pointer before issuing .Refresh().
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>>Albert
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>>>Are you calling VMPs RealRefresh() instead of the native refresh?
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>The reason Drew came up with it, was that grid's don't always refresh. I believe it's getting VFP to see things need to be refreshed.