>>>>>I'm against death penalty in general. And punishment too. ...

>>>>Sorry - the fellow threatened to kill sibilings, wife, aunt. People claim threat of death is no prevention to them, but it works on the rational. That only proves these offenders are beyond saving. ....

>>>It starts with the wrongness off punishment at alland ends up with the denial of the right to live. What ever your feelings are - civilization starts where one comes over it. The being you are talking about was unable to come over his feelings. Do you need to be on the same level? Just follow your feelings (and you had good reasons for feeling bad) does not make you right. It just makes you a murder too. To not do it is all the difference there is.
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>>Civilization begins where criminals end. It is not murder to terminate a murderer. Simple logic. I am at a higher level to recognize the futility of caring for these animals.
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>>>I really like those whining about taxes. Your country is rich enough to deal with it. It's peanuts. There are other places where money is wasted in a much higher scale.
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>>No country is rich enough to rip of their constituents.
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>>>The problem with the right to live is not the extrema, it's the boundary. How do you define the step from where it is illogical to survive?...
>>>Murdering the offender seems to solve all problems. One does not need to care about any more, the feelings are satisfied. How archaic.
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>>The archaic is subjecting others to the potential harm of these animals. Exposing innocents to murderers is exactly like the Roman Coliseum throwing people to the lions.
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A bit too heated on both sides perhaps ?

Personally I have no problem with some archaic ideas (better than Corona looking for my Neanderthal genes, which perhaps offer less resistance than pure Cro-Magnon... damn virus not only dangerous and economy disrupting, but racist on top) and for some clear cases I like mass shootings and perp caught on site I have no problem with death penalty. Becomes difficult to argue when DNA proves wrong man was executed.

>Naming any human being an animal brings this filament short to reach Godwin's law. I quit.

Any argument in direction of Naked Ape is reason to quit ? Did not know you were that religious ?
(No, I am not trying to goad you, but this thread needs levity and you can survive a little tease)

regards
thomas