>>>I have toolbar button that won't stay put (more than one actually).
>>>since i am not able to control the "left" position at runtime, i am developing "Toolbar button phobia".
>>>it is not a recognized mental disorder but that doesn't mean i am not crazy.
>>>Does anyone know the cure?
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>>Wasn't that a problem of ZORDER? Just try zorder the elements.
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>I had an impression that it's not the elements, it's the toolbar itself which feels like moving where it wants.
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>Wasn't docking the best known antidote for this? Also, it's possible that it stores its position in foxuser and then ignores everything, trusting only what foxuser says.

A Toolbar once docked is always facing Redmond, WA. Or similar unpredictable.