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UK COVID 4th Wave
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17/07/2021 06:44:51
 
 
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Johnson seems adamant to open. Incidence / positive tests per se should not be treated like they were last year, as vaccination is not only available, but the norm for UK grownups.

Proof of that is the # of deaths in the wake oh high positive tests 14 - 21 days ago. As they had ample vaccines available, not getting at least first shot was not curbed by available dosis for some time now.

OTOH second dose, more important for delta, has not been given as fast as was tested due to wish to reach more first vaccinations - have not researched that area.

In theory I am with the aim/behind the opinion, as soon as everybody wishing for vaccination had ample time to get 2nd shot shielding (7-14 days after 2nd shot), measures should be dropped.

In practice I would probably try other means first to heighten vacc level: ask for tests more often but refuse to offer them for free to unvaccinated, cover only 10-20% of any COVID treatment cost for unvaccinated grownups, as it was their choice to heighten their personal risk by not vaccinating(with some exceptions for those unable to vaccinate for medical reasons - those have to checked in advance). Alternative ways to monetize possible, like a monthly discount for vaccinated people in health insurance cost. More testing/research on Corona infection in kids compared with risks of vaccination would be nice as seen from this keyboard.

BUT: If the strategy is to give Corona antibodies to total population (which WILL happen everywhere, just a matter of time as it becomes endemic...) to avoid lockdowns in cold season 2021/2022 at all means, starting in summer is smarter - as long as enough hospital beds are free, this alternative/more traditional way to get antibodies will add a few million before October, which traditionally hikens aerosol-spread infections.

Long Covid data in children and unvaccinated risks not countable today, but if you switch focus to death count caused by or with Covid19 it is a gamble less idiotic than german press paints it to be. Difficulty to get time series data including relevant markers for age, sex, vacc status here smells a lot like Big Brother influence, even if I am not proclaiming conspiracies everywhere. I think it is more in line with Trump telling lies as he thought it would be better - not going into discussion on whether for his reelection chances in 2020 or the states as a whole.

regards
thomas


>For July 16th the UK reported 51,870 positive tests. Canada reported 397.
>
>https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
>https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html
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