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03/08/2021 11:09:43
 
 
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03/08/2021 03:57:51
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Health
Category:
Diseases
Title:
Re: Masks
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01681866
Message ID:
01682002
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>The truth is that C19 mainly affects the old and the immune-compromised. I think something like 80%+ of hospitalizations and deaths are with people who are overweight and/or with diabetes or 2+ co-morbidity; situations often (not always) caused by life-style choices one was free to make. Now we will punish our children for decades and decades with the economic and psychological costs of protecting the lives of the very old and the very many who squandered their health. As usual the older generation will make the youth pay for their choices.
>
>U.S. COVID-19 deaths 2020-21 by age (year)
>– 30% of all deaths occurred over the age of 85
>– 80% of all deaths occurred over the age of 65
>– Only 15% of the U.S. population is over the age of 65
>
>Now just add in the co-morbidity data ...
>
>Source: CDC – https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/AH-Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Age-in-Yea/3apk-4u4f - NB. source is not FoxNews or someone's drunk uncle on Fecebook :)

Some statistics inflate perceived risc, other POV might lessen the panic:
see case fatalty rate in Hessen (now, even damped by vaccination! in high age group)
 2021-08-03 	    male           female 	    unknown        CFR
00-04 Jahre           0            0                  0	      0.00%
05-14 Jahre           0            0                  0	      0.00%
15-34 Jahre          23            4                   0	      0.03%
35-59 Jahre          223          95                   1	      0.28%    
60-79 Jahre         1500          791                   2	      5.68%
80+ Jahre           2230         2712                   3         23.02%
with nice pics, well done visualization
https://rsalzer.github.io/COVID_19_AGE/

or when described as %% against age group in total population
https://www.aerzteblatt.de/callback/image.asp?id=107168

now to lessen the panic: humans do not like to calculate the risc of dying - but risc of dying is NOT equal at all ages, even if Covid "enhancement" gets more marked with age. See:
https://www.aerzteblatt.de/callback/image.asp?id=107167

One of the very first targets today has fallen out of favor: "flatten the curve" as to not overburden existing health system. Case mortality fluctuates all over the world, but I found
https://www.mpg.de/16647475/covid19-unterschiedliche-todesfallraten
well reasoned approach to explain differences in case fatality between South Korea (2.2%), Germany (4.6%) and outliers Italy (14%) and Spain (12%) with periods of overtaxed hospitals (data from mid-2020)

So concentrate vaccination effort / motivation on 60+ or 50+ first, plus all medical personal as they encounter virus at higher frequency AND concentration, plus all personal working in elderly homes, do not waste effort with "system relevant" groups - fire fighters, policemen can weather it, politicians I won't mention here to stay polite ;-)
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