>>>>>>What's all this has to do with the subject ?
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>>>>>It's a well known fact that C19 caused the whole Afghan affair in the first place. And few other places.
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>>>>Are you certain ? As C14 became unreliable due to man-added CO2, Afghani tried a fix but they could not stop early enough and caused C19, All beneficial attempts to help them did not work, so West pulled out as harmless peasants were turning Taliban when sun was down.
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>>>>That tale makes more economic sense, as pinning C19 on China will never happen...
>>>How about C4 ?
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>>I'm driving one. A Picasso, vintage 2007.
>I had a 1960 Renault CV4 - does that count ?

The one with an umbrella handle in the middle of the dashboard? Drove that, too, for a few years. The only car ever that was designed with a spade.