>>Thank you John, appreciate your input but please stop making noise in my chamber and ignore the precautionary principle, we must inject all the children because.

When Galileo proposed that the earth rotates about the sun, he had the support of powerful Jesuit scientists and the Pope; so why was he so infuriated when some of the other ignorant authoritarians scoffed at his ideas and attempted to suppress?

Galileo's angry reactions almost allowed the Karens of his age to get him burned as a heretic. Which confirms that it's possible to be very clever and very stupid at the same time: what Galileo should have done is to engage with the scientists and ignore the ad hominem sniping.

Re injecting children: 2 papers this week about myocarditis in younger people. FWIW I have close personal knowledge of a teenager rushed to hospital after a C19 jab reaction. She's in a university town where the ED docs say they're seeing a lot of these reactions- but that's anecdote and my main point is that when it happens to you, the incidence is 100%. IMHO it's negligent to refuse to discuss downsides versus upsides in younger kids who some calculate to be more at risk from playground accidental death than C19. Yes it's possible that vaccinated Johnny is less likely to infect vulnerable grandma, but is that society's decision- to potentially put kids at risk to protect octogenarians? Does that also apply to flu? These discussions need to occur even if some are determined to prevent it.