Hi David ---

That's preciely what I do (the little buttons next to the grid)

>I'd support John's approach.
>Running the extra toolbar, I think, will be complex for the user, but especially for you.
>I generally also put a add/edit/delete... set of buttons under or beside the grid. You build a command group class to do this and place is nicely underneath so it looks just like the grid headings.
>I can send a 'real' class to you if you like
>
>HTH