>Richard,
>If you're calling your forms in the 'VM accepted' way with Omenu.Doforms('myform.scx') then you won't find the form in the debugger. If you call them with 'do myform' they show up. You may have to add a few lines to your menu for testing - for debugging I have a menu pad that calls all the forms with "do form".
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>HTH
>Barbara
>

Well, that appears to be my problem . . . but then what's going on. Shouldn't the debugger have knowledge of all that is taking place inside the current session? Most forms I can test and debug using the VM "standalone" features so this is not a mountain, but there are times when a form has so many uses of other framework objects that it is impractical to run as standalone. I guess I'll have to try your idea of calling the forms outside the scope of VM.

Thanks for your quick reply.

Dick