>OK. simply frustrating.. I have a smaller form in a formset and it's initially invisible. I want to call it up, so, do I just set the visible property to .t. and set .show(1)(which makes it visible but then the calling form disappears which I don't want). What I want is to have the called form come up on top and "model". Whats the best way to do this and best way to release or hide it?

You cannot have modal form within formset, all formset forms are modeless by definition. To refer any form in formset, you may call e.g. Thisformset.MyForm.Visible=.T.