>If you drag and drop to a form from the database, then the table is automatically added to the DE.

That explains that ... I wondered why some of my forms had a DE ... I thought that I had created it but then had forgotten that I did. I then go back and delete it anyway.

>IMO, one of the things that makes the transition from procedural to OO programming is the fact that VFP still has non-object parts to it and the more we use objects the faster we come to understand the object approach to doing things.

I agree with you here, Jim, but it's a long process and I obviously don't fully understand things yet.

>None of the issues raised in this thread are insurmountable with a DE. The paths can be handled, the performance is virtually the same, and once you are used to it the property sheet is much more readable than a few dozen lines of code.

There is one major gripe I have with a lot of the stuff I read (books, magazine articles, VFP documentation etc.) and that is everyone telling me that such-and-such "can be done", but never telling me *HOW* to do it. I don't like to have to have my hand held on some of this stuff, because I like to think I'm fairly intelligent and can pick up a lot of stuff on my own, but until someone points me in the right direction or gives me an insight into the basic concept of something I'm trying to do, it's not easy learning OOP on your own. I've been programming for going-on 25 years, but OOP is a new concept to me.

Just felt like griping a bit <g>
Bonnie