Hi Bill ---

Don't sell VFP short. I write some pretty nifty 2-tier OOP applications myself with Oracle and SQL Server back ends.

>I'll save my major rant about Microsoft's educational and marketing departments for another time. Suffice it to say, I wasn't planning on going to TechEd before today, and I have even less reason to go now. As for DevCon, Microsoft seems to be comfortable with the idea of the Fox community having their own week to meet, talk, and exchange ideas...it keeps them away from the rest of the Visual Studio developers that are working together with all of the other tools in VS.
>We wouldn't want them to come in and corrupt their world with their ideas of what a single-tier, object-oriented, small business solution should be, now would we?

ROFL --- Corrupt is right. Compare the ease of which we create and manage parent classes, classes, subclasses with the teeth-drilling of a VB CLS. Sometimes I think MS really doesn't want VBers exposed to VFP because the more "heads-up" amongst them might flock to VFP en masse.