Hi Bruce ---

Gartner *still* cautiously recommends it. One of the most fun things I had to do a few months ago was to make a recommendation to an agency as to what to standardize on: VB or PB. I told the account manager that it was trying to choose between Lucifer and Baal.

>Truth be told, *all* sizable projects here always struggle, are usually late, and have at least a few bugs :) A big problem PB had, I think, was over-optimism (especially the way it was hyped by the Gartner folks), as if it was pure RAD, and, well -- it's not, past the opening design phase...