>> but I often spend more time trying to get something to work correctly
>>than if I just do a FOR loop or something off the top of my head, you
>>know how that is :~)
>
>Oh boy, do I. :-)
>
>How many people out there would rather spend 2 hours finding an elegant way to do something, instead of 1/2 hr. for something that's good enough? :-)

depends on the pay...