Nothing pushes excellence (i.e., VFP) even higher than healthy competition. But, IMHO, VDB has a way to before MS feals any heat from it. You think VFP folks have an inferiority complex (w.r.t. VB), imagine what VDB folks must feel like. :)

>I used to think that about VFP.. :-)
>
>Seriously, VFP 3.x and 5.x left me very frustrated whenever I tried
>to get grids or multicolumn list boxes to work the way I wanted them to work.
>I needed grids with subclassable columns and headers, and list boxes
>that had properties which were named something akin to what they actually did.
>
>Alan (of KSoft) and I used to work together. I know he has good intentions
>for dBase 2000. I hope he can pull it off. Maybe he can scare Microsoft into
>putting more resources into VFP.
>
>
>>I have no desire to go near Win Visual dBASE.... :-)