Setting the caption to "" worked perfectly...

Many thanks to both of you



>Larry,
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>Use a Container class instead. I wonder too if you set all the properties to make it lose the titlebar if the menu entry will go away.
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>>Ok, the invisible form is my application object (based on a form so I can add the timer control).
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>>The form's name shows up in the "Window" menu, along with "Cascade", "Cycle", etc. But this is the *app* form, I don't want it showing up on that menu. The user should never see any reference to it at all.