>Anyway, I am working on an application with top-level forms. This is an area new to me; I've just never had the occasion to work this way before.

And be patient with the top-level learning curve, it's well worth the effort. I'd never consider doing an app any other way, now, it's really great to have the complete PEM control. Another nice shift is that you can you scrap your application object and transfer its duties to the top-level...