TIW is not very tough to work with. I use my own DBC in my own directory and project and life is good. Stick to local views and life it very easy with TIW.

Now SBT to on the ohter hand. Too many places to add code and no freakin road map to follow. Well documented, for the anal retentive.

SBT how do I love you, let me count the ways:

1) Changing anything on a report.
2) adding data to sales orders and having it post at end of month.
3) xxYxxxnn Why have a history file anyway.
4) Changes to one company may not be wanted in another company.
5) FUNCTIONS() in indexes that took brains.
6) Year to date values are not even close to being correct.
7) Payroll was designed by Elbonians.
8) No way to sumarize history you just get to delete it.
9) SBT's opinion of the printing process.
10) Support from people who do not know how to listen.

Set rant off

But really folks if you need to sell a package it's easy to do and you can make lot's of $ supporting it. Because it takes lots of time to do anything with it. Their training is a joke and not worth thinking of.

Recently they had a press release that states that they are going to change it all and do it right. I can't see how their dealer base can change with them. Too many people out there and too many 3rd party products that are going to get screwed up.

Only means that there is a lot of revenue to be had. ;-)

__Stephen Russell
Memphis VFP User Group





>We'll be working with TIW, too.
>
>This is such a mess. I'm trying to add a screen and there's a bazillion places I need to change the code. Sigh.
>
>I decided not to add the company name to my profile. It's probably not wise to associate myself with a reseller if I'm going to bad mouth the product. :)
>
>Somebody please rescue me with a nice telecommuting job!
>
>-Michelle
>
>
>>I second that opinion! SBT is very difficult to work with and upgrading versions with alot of custom code is worse.
>>
>>I'm stuck with SBT & TIW and both are close to our business does not fit either, well.
>>
>>I am holding the press release from TIW that says they are now going to ship a VFP6 version. We have been waiting for a modification on formula bill of materials for almost 3 years now.
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>>You don't get source with TIW.
>>
>>__Stephen Russell
>>
>>>The job I have now is working with SBT. I hate it! I don't know if the others are any better, but I'd advise avoiding SBT. Crazy code is making me crazy with it.
>>>
>>>-Michelle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>>One of the most widely known is SBT Pro Series 5.0.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can get more information at www.sbt.com (or something like it)
>>>>>
>>>>>HTH
>>>>>
>>>>>Pascal
>>>>
>>>>Another one is SourceMate Accounting...
>>>>
>>>>I used to work with SBT (Sad-but-true/severly-bad-technology) for about 7 years and started to really get scared when I saw how they implemented their VFP version. Instead of a full reorg/restructure of code/procedures, forms, they basically did a visual conversion and kept the code pasted in methods/external programs. They did it just to say they had the product available in VFP but still uses a lot of old techniques of programming.