Try using the -A and -R startup switches.

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These are in VFP 5.0, and I believe they are also included in 3.0

HTH,

--Paul

>Yes designer is checked.
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>
>Rebecca:
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>>What happens when you click View--Toolbars on the VFP menu? Is the form designer toolbar checked?
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>>--Paul
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>>>vfp 3.0
>>>
>>>For some reason I cann't access my form designer toolbar.
>>>
>>>Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>Guess I will have to re-install vfp.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Becky