Hi John, I'm facing the multiple data set situation right now, and hadn't thought of your suggestion, heck, I didn't even now you could change the database property to a cursor, anyway, sounds great, and I was about to implement it into my base class, and uh oh, no DE for a form class, so I would have to put the code, or a call to a function that does it, in every form in my project... is there a better way??, TIA