Yeah, I hear you there. :-( Best of luck to you. BTW, have you found a way to get it to "push"?

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>>I think though that is the effect you'd see. And you can easily put a menu on a top level form. I think you can find the info either in the solutions sample or the on-line help. It certainly can't take longer to figure out than trying to the get the button on the _screen object to "push."
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>>< shrug > But it's up to you.
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>I wish it was. In my personal projects, hiding the main VFP window and using my own window as the primary interface, will be the way to go. But alas, in a team enviroment, personal ideas and concerns don't always play out like you would like them to when dealing with pre-existing code.
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>Thanks for the advice and help Nancy.