>(, with Init I couldn't even get it to run since, AFIK, form's objects are initiated first, and they need the tables to be loaded, so I got error messages...probably I'll just code it into every form, just wish there was a better way, TIA

Take a look at code book which implements the DE programatically in a form class with a DELoader... Generally the DE loader is embedded in the bizobj, but it can stand alone.

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