>Similary, you can plug a completely handcode form -- one which uses no mere mortals classes -- in the mere mortals framework -- without causing problems. Mere mortals has no arrays which every form is supposed to update, or anything of that sort?

Gar,

This is one of those areas where I believe you'll suddenly find yourself fighting with the framework (or any framework for that matter). Why create a form without using the framework's form class? The form class is already designed to collaberate with the forms manager class, toolbar class, the business objects class, etc.

George