>I've noticed that the code in my refresh method fires automatically when my form instantiates. From reading about refresh, it seems that the method should only fire when I call it directly. As a test I put DEBUGOUT 'refresh' in the refresh method of a blank form and DEBUGOUT 'init' in the init event, etc... What I got varied a little from the LISAG I was expecting. I get LISARG or LOAD, INIT, SHOW, ACTIVATE, REFRESH, GOTFOCUS. Am I missing something or does REFRESH always fire off when a form is loaded? or am I doing something that causes to fire off beside thisform.refresh?

No, Refresh firing is normal...so you have to be careful about what code you put there...