>Hi, Edward....
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>So are you saying here that there isn't a away to actually "talk to the grid" on its own? (Of course I looked, and there is no value in the properties of a "column"...it is only for each text box).
>
>What I think I want is something like
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>SUM grid1.column1.allthevalues
>
>--- Larry

You should talk with grid...values, but again you may run COUNT/CALCULATE (or just simple SCAN) against some field.values of grid.recordsource. Obviously, you may use table_buffered recordsource to provide smooth calculation.