Jane,

Its not form.show.window = 2. ShowWindow is a property of the form. Read the help top for the ShowWindow property and maybe it will make a little more sense.

PF

>>Top-level form is a form with Form.ShowWindow=2, then you add toolbar there in its activate event, about the same as you did.
>>When toolbar is added, you may remove it the same way: RemoveObject().
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>I think I'm dense. Is form.show.WIndow=2 in the init of the top-level form? When I say I want to remove the toolbar, I need to do it visually. Physically, it's on the form 5 times.
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>I still don't understand this stuff about top-level forms? I thought it's all 1 form.