PMFJI, Larry,

The 'grid column data' you're looking for is simply the data in the grid recordsource. As Ed says, it will be the buffered data (assuming buffering is on) for a table, view, etc. Just use count/calculate/etc. (NOT SQL) on the grid recordsource.

HTH
Barbara

>Hi, Edward....
>
>So are you saying here that there isn't a away to actually "talk to the grid" on its own? (Of course I looked, and there is no value in the properties of a "column"...it is only for each text box).
>
>What I think I want is something like
>
>SUM grid1.column1.allthevalues
>
>--- Larry