Evan and John,

PMFJI. To my admittedly snobbish way of thinking, a degree indicates you've learned to think somehow. Therefore there cannot be a degree in Fox, VB, or any other "mere product."

When I was in high school we were taught structured programming (a hot new idea then <s>) using Pascal. The teacher claimed we might never use Pascal again, but he didn't care about whether we could learn syntax, he wanted us to learn structure. IOW, he wanted us to learn to think.

I responsed to John's message instead of the others because John brings up the real point. You can't finish a project in VFP unless you know what you're doing, you have to be able to consider the general case, plan for the future, etc. That makes VFP programmers among some of the most advanced I've ever known.

We are hiring a junior programmer right now and all of those graduates who claim they went to college to learn Visual Basic go right into the circular file. We don't want Fox per se, but we know anyone who knows OOP, structure, and the relational model can pick up the syntax.

My own degree is in Physics. Like math, it teaches you general thinking and has served me well as an background for programming.


>Hi Evan --
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>>"Foxpro programmers are not computer science graduates"
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>That's a bunch of crap. Most of the VFP people I work with have degrees in something or so much work experience that it's irrelevent.
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>Personally, I do a lot of systems architecting, peer review, technical analysis, and a lot of other stuff that has nothing to do with Fox. But the core experience I got to be able to do these things was from working with xBase derivitives including Fox.