Hi Tom ---

>Hey John, congratulations on going independent! I just saw that in a
>previous thread.

Thanks, man. "Will Code for Food"

>What I have been observing are some people I know that have been using
>Fox products for several years. Even though that work with VFP everyday
>that are using it as a FPW product. Not long ago one of them showed
>me a completed application using a browse to show the data. I suggested
>that he might want to use a grid instead.

This is, sadly, way too true. Sometimes I think that MS should knock runtime support for BROWSE and FP hangers-on commands from the runtime (hehe -- but that would be evil).

>I do certainly agree with you that a lot of people that formerly used
>Fox products were blown away by OOP. A lot of those persons are gone for
>good - too hard for them to understand. Others are out there using
>VFP as a FoxPro for DOS or FoxBASE+ app. Seriously, these guys are still
>using @Say, @Gets on the screen - never used a form. Pretty scary stuff.

I have seen the same thing.

>I can assure you that those people would have an extremely tough time
>passing any type of certification test...

They WON'T pass a certification test.