>>If I can ever figure out a way to STOP menus (regular or popup) from disappearing on a click of an item, I will do so, standards be damned! Windows in general is far too fond of mousing!@#@! It seems more to be designed to enhance one's dexterity than with productive app usage. Have you had much need to go into Help, click on something, get a MODAL sub-list of related topics, click on one, find it isn't applicable and then find that the modal window is GONE so you have to start all over. Grrrrrr!
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>I have a modified version of menus. When my apps start a standard menu is built on the fly from a modified menu table AND a form with a treeview displays the whole menu tree. It's up to the user to open or close this form. I have customers that love it and others that find it useless. If you want to have a look at it i'll try to extricate it from the framework.

I have done that, and it actually worked fine, except for a few glitches now and then. What I really wanted is the menus - and when this beast gets defeated, wake me up.