Hi Kenneth,

I *do* agree with you. . . but with MS starting to proliferate these things, what real chance do we have????

Cheers,

Jim N

>Jim,
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>Someone (was it John?) pointed us to the Interface Hall of Fame and Shame a few days ago. I found it very enlightening and entertaining. Having a button be grey until the mouse passes over it is a perfect example of a misfeature, it must have been fun to code but it is worse than useless.
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>>Hi Kenneth,
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>>Cannot comment on your general thrust, but in regards to "which causes a button to be greyed out unless the mouse is over it" and "the button has no border or bevel until the mouse passes over it, and then it "turns into" a button", these sound a lot like the IE 'buttons' to me.
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>>Is MS breaking its own GUI standard, or is it making a new one????
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>>Cheers,
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>>Jim N
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>>>Oops, sent that too soon, the last sentence was:
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>>>I have also found that many of the newer features are really clutter. For instance, Sheridan's has "TrueColors", which causes a button to be greyed out unless the mouse is over it. If I'm not mistaken, this is a fundamental violation of GUI design. Also it had a feature that the button has no border or bevel until the mouse passes over it, and then it "turns into" a button. Seemed kind of pointless.