Hi Harry ----

I must be missing something: Why are you messing around with the recordsource? I would design it this way: Put the table in the DataEnvironment of the Form with the Grid. Set the RecordSource at design time; don't mess with it at run-time. Set the Form to a Private DataSession. In the detail entry form, do NOT open the table: Set the DataSession to Private. This allows it to "inherit" the parent form's datasession. I am assuming that the Save button is on the child? If so, TABLEUPDATE() the table (if buffered) and close the form. If you Refresh() the parent, the new record will appear.



>we start off with an empty table and a grid form.
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>To add a record to the grid, the user hits the 'add/edit' button and this runs a form which lets them add a record and enter the data with the all the space they need and the validation I can put on a form much more easily than in a grid.
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>However, when the form is closed and we return to the grid form, all we see is a blank record. (so at least it 'knows' that we've added one - it just won't show the values)
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>The debugger tells me that we have successfully added the record and that its values are as entered.
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>This despite doing a [jgrid.recordsource='' ] BEFORE running the add/edit form and a
>[jgrid.recordsource="journal" ] and a form refresh, after the add/edit form has done its thing...
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>so why no show?
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>Harry