>Thanks, that was it, I've been at vfp too long. See, I knew it was a stupid question :)

Bruce --

Not a stupid question at all...at least you were smart enough to ask for help. I hate to admit how long I fiddled around with the very same problem until someone finally showed me. Supposedly, VFP and VB will share the same tools sometime in the future...I hope that they standardize around VFP's.

Bill