I've read all th previous letters on grids. I don't believe you need to be buffering to catch the bug, it also affects "no buffering" as well. As far as the fix, I will try it. I thought I ws losing my mind until I createdthe smple table and form with the grid and messed around wit the grid awhile. Thanks to Michel for all the support. I will be spending the next couple of days dedicating myself to learning the grid. One control at a time, kinda like one day at a time? See you!

Greg Cummines
inv13mas@minn.net