> I can't seem to figure a way to have a form come up a > certain size in the center of the screen always. Is there a way for >just the form to come up on an 'empty' screen( no foxpro title >screen present?) what exactely do you mean by "no foxpro title screen"? no desktop? read in the help about SDI forms if you want to change the VFP screen to an empty string just do _screen.caption="" Arnon